The two sources that portray my view successfully are Sources F and A. They used statistics to prove benefits of helicoptering parents.
The writer for Source A sees helicopter parenting as misunderstood. He uses words like 'actually' and tends to give an anti helicopter viewpoint throughout.
Source B features a real life scenario whilst source E features a hyperbolic cartoon. The first is a real life scenario, thus seeming possible. The cartoon gives exaggerations in order to empower the rediculousness of the concept.
Brandon Kuhl The two sources that portray my view successfully are Sources F and A. They used statistics to prove benefits of helicoptering parents.
The writer for Source A sees helicopter parenting as misunderstood. He uses words like 'actually' and tends to give an anti helicopter viewpoint throughout.
Source B features a real life scenario whilst source E features a hyperbolic cartoon. The first is a real life scenario, thus seeming possible. The cartoon gives exaggerations in order to empower the rediculousness of the concept.
Source F shows that helicopter parenting reduces scores, thus supporting C. I think the information is reliable give the source but fails to mention within what perimeters it was forged.
I would draw the line where you aren't allowing them literal and figurative growth. Let them make mistakes and face consequences.
Kayla Comprehension Source D When I think of helicopter parenting I think of parents hovering over issues that may not be very important. Also I like how it shows the child as a teenager because that shows the typical age group of when the real stages of helicopter parenting comw into place. RA#1 The after in Source A portrays helicopter parentng as a positive think. That they aren't necessarily being controlling but just getting involved in the child's life. The involvement makes for a child that is "more engaged in learning and reported greater satisfaction with their colleges"(Lee). RA#2 In both Sources B and D they are both showing the parents "helping" the children. The children also both have the same annoyed look on their faces. The differences are, however, is that Source B makes it really seem like the parent is trying to help(minus the annoyed face) while Source D shows the parent as hovering and invading. RA#3 In Source F, the chart shows that as the percentage of parent involvement increases, the SAT scores decrease. Therefore supporting Source C by saying that the more involved a parent is, the more dependent the child is. And in turn, weakens the success of the child when they become adults. RA#4 I would say that what is considered helpful us just making sure they don't have any questions when doing homework and helping them with social situations. When it becomes intrusive is when they begin deciding things for the child. Not letting the child do anything for themselves.
C: Sources B and C are the best that portray my view points. These sources were most successful because the picture in source B shows how I would react if my parents tried to become involved in my school life.
RA1: The writer of source A said that helicopter parenting is actually beneficial to children in the long run. He uses words like, "capable", "well adjusted" and "engaged" to describe how the kids of helicopter parenting turn out in college.
RA2: In both visual B and D the children are giving their parents a look like, "Ugh just leave me alone." In B the parents is more trying to "help" with the kids homework. In D, the mother is hovering over her daughter even though she isn't really there with her to physically hover over her.
RA3: Source F supports source C's argument that helicopter parenting can lead to more mature and ready adults/college students. I don't think that source F is reliable because a student with or with out helicopter parents has an equal opportunity to be successful.
RA4: I would draw the line at school work. From kindergarten to high school, it is acceptable for a parent to actively involved, but once they are out of the house and on to college then the parents should let them be on their own. Kids are like butterflies, sometimes you have to let them fly on their own.
Comprehension Source A and source E portray that helicopter parenting isn't a bad thing. They prove specific quotes from credible sources saying that helicopter parents can actually provide positive outcomes. Rhetorical analysis 1. The writer of source a is saying that helicopter parents can be good. The reader knows this because he has a quote that says that people with helicopter parents are "more engaged in learning and reported greater satisfaction with their colleges." At the end, he also says that people have made the point to think of helicopter parents in the extreme and describes it in a negative way. 2. Both sources have an example of a helicopter parent in them. They both are trying to help their children. In source b, the parent is doing the work for his son, while in source d, the mother is just trying to remind her child of what she needs to do which could be something every normal parent does. It's showing that helicopter parents don't have to be awful. 3. The information in source f supports source c by showing how children still reply on their parents once they get to college because they really only have average to below SAT scores when their parents have done everything for them. Source F is reliable because it provides actual statistics that relate to the articles. 4. Helping children would be actually helping them and not doing everything for them, but also letting their children do some things by themselves. Being intrusive would be doing everything for their child and not giving them any freedom to do things themselves.
Cierra Gronning Comprehension: Sources A & D give the most compelling viewpoint of helicopter parenting. They are most successful because they show that helicopter parents aren't all bad, that they do help their children reach their full potential. Rhetorical Analysis: 1. The writer of souce A views helicopter parents are suprisingly helpful. She states that helicopter parents actually raise thier children to be more capable, and aren't the overly attached people society makes them out to be. Words that he used to describe his point of view are: benifits, engaged in learning, greater satisfaction. 2. The two sources are similiar because they both portray a parent helping their child in their endeavers. But the parent in source B is physically guiding their child by assisting them with their work, while the parent in source D is just reminding the child to study, not being involved completely. 3. The information in source F supports source C because it proves that being a helicopeter parent has its side effects. It shows that kids whose parents were less involved did better than the kids whose parents were overly involved. I don't think it is a reliable source because this is certain students, and they may be more or less biased. 4. I draw the line at helping your child do something, and doing it for them. A child has to learn to stand on their own two feet and do things for themselves. They will be highly unprepared for the real world and the challenges it brings.
1. Source D and Source C show the negative effects of helicopter parenting. They both imply how parents that are too involved with their children's lives make the child dependent and pushes the child away from their parent and home. 1. The author supports it using phrases like, "just might have its merits" and "its not a bad idea" talking about helicopter parents. 2. Source B shows the kid being very engaged with the parent, while the kid in Source D wants to get away from the parent. They both have a negative effect on helicopter parenting. 3. The data in source F show that parents who are involved with their kids social life had lower SAT scores. Source C explains that helicopter parents make their kids have a "lack of maturity" and aren't prepared emotionally for college, the graph supports this. 4. When a kid asks for help or the parent sees their child struggling, they can intervene, but if the parent intervenes when the child doesn't need or want help, thats when it becomes a problem.
Comp: Source B and Source C portray my own thoughts. These sources are the most successful because they portray how the parents won't leave the kids alone. They hover over them cause them to be dependent on the parent.
RA: 1. The writer of source A is somewhat indifferent about wether helicopter parenting is bad or not. "When you really get down to it, it just seems like common sense that you're not doing your kids any favors by holding their hand all the time, and yet the findings discussed in the Globe acutually paint a different picture." So using common sense it shows it isn't a good thing, but using facts it could be a good thing. 2. In source B and D, both parents are hovering over the kid to make sure they get done what they need. The difference is in B the father is actually doing the kids work for him and the D the mother is just consistently nagging the girl to make sure she remembers to do her work. 3. The information in Source F supports Source C because it proves that students that had less involvement from their parents had higher SAT scores. I do believe that it is a reliable source considering the college board is a well known source. 4. Helping children is basically explaining how to do something and letting them answer it for themselves, such as a math problem. It becomes intrusive when the parent begins to do the work for them or plans every detail of their day for them. A child needs guidance to do things, not someone to do things for them. Dani
1 comprehension: Source F and Source A were the most convincing to me because even though the author of source A was a bit skeptical, they questioned their own bias in order to present information, and showed the process of their thoughts clearly enough to be understood by people on both sides. Source F showed relevant information that can lead to the conclusion that parent involvement in a child's life can influence their SAT score in a negative way. 1 rhetorical analysis: writer A was skeptical of the notion that helicopter parenting was a good thing, and used added words like "actually" and "just might" to show that he was questioning the evidence that he was showing, and he used the phrase "it seems like common sense" to describe his point of view about helicopter parenting as negative. 2 Source B is a photograph without words, whereas source D is a cartoon. They are similar because they depict a parent right behind their child, giving assistance, however the expression on the woman's face in the cartoon seems more worried than the man's face in the photo, which leads me to believe that society's view on helicopter parents is somewhat exaggerated. 3. Source F supports C because it shows that students with helicopter parents are performing more poorly on a test that would measure their academic abilities as well as their responsibility for preparing for this test, and the data shown in source F shows that even seemingly outside factors to education, like sports and clothing, can also influence someone's test scores if their parents intervene. 4. Because of these sources, I think that a parent should be involved in the child's plans for the future like education and career choice, but not to the point where the parent chooses their occupation. The parent should also be involved in the child's recreational time, but not to the extent where the parent chooses their childs friends, or dictates every one of their activities. I think children should have to learn most things about social norms on their own, but have a basis of proper conduct that comes from their parents values.
Comprehension - Sources A and E. They were successful because it shows that helicopter parents often have kids that are more involved because the parents are active in the child's life and want the best for their children.
Rhetorical Analysis 1. The writer in source A viewed helicopter parenting as a good thing for the children. He said that," there is actually benefits to helicopter parenting" and he said the college age students whose parents fit the definition for helicopter parents have actually grown into capable, well adjusted college students.
2. The two sources are similar because in the two pictures the child doesn't seem to be paying attention to their parents. They are different because the son and father in source B are together and in source D the daughter is running away from her mom.
3.it shows that the less parents are involved the higher the SAT score. This supports source C because it makes it seem true that the growth of kids into adults is stunted before they go off to college. Source F is less persuasive to me because it was kind of hard to understand what the chart actually meant.
4. I would draw the line to the point where the parents are doing their homework for them and the kid doesn't have a say in anything that he/she does. It's okay if the parent helps with homework or reminds their kids to do something, but when it's to the point where the parents do everything for them then the kid won't know how to handle situations for themselves later in life.
C: For my thoughts on this issue, source b because it shows the father "helping" his son with his homework when he's actually doing it for him. And also source d because it shows the mother literally hovering over her daughter. RA: 1. He thinks that maybe it's not such a bad idea, that it has "earned its wings". 2. Source b the parent and son are together, and the son doesn't really need help with his homework but his dad feels the need to help anyway, and in source d the daughter has already left the house and the mother is flying after her to make sure that she doesn't forget to study for her test. They are both giving you a visual of helicopter parenting, and letting you see that the children don't want to listen to the parents. 3. Source c is explaining the amount of parental involvement with children in college and how it can impact them mentally, and source f gives a visual example for it. I do believe that the data is reliable because it's from the college board, it's just difficult to understand. 4. I think you should help children only when they are asking for it, and if they aren't asking and you help them anyway it becomes intrusive.
C.The two most compelling view points are sources D and A. Source D is the simple definition of a helicopter parent. Society tends to except or relate to things they can understand, but also apply to life. The simplicity of the comic easily portrays it's meaning and the audience visualizes the meaning. Source A reflects my own views. It is good to have a parent that is plugged in to there child's life but only to a degree. It's important and a parents job to guide there child. In which case it is except able to be a helicopter parent, but in moderation. Kids still need space to learn on there own, that's part of being a child. RA-1. Source viewed helicopter parenting as not a bad thing as long as it is done to a degree. In moderation, parents should help there children. It's a parents job to guide children on the right path, just not to the extreme. Words such as "degree", mildly" ,"involvement" and "commonsense" all support that helicopter parenting is okay to an extent. RA-2. Sources B and D are both visual reference. Source b is effective because it is more life like. Although source d is relatable but also comical. RA-3. Both sources apply the helicopter parents raise children who have stunted growth when becoming adults. Source F maybe unreliable depending on who was all interviewed. RA-4. There should be a line drawn in over parenting. Parents should be plugged into there kids life but they shouldn't over parent. Sometimes the best way to learn is through your own mistakes. -Cody
Comprehension: Sources C and F best portray my own thoughts the issue. These sources were most successful because they show that helicopter parenting isn't a good thing, and that it could cause problems with children being unprepared to face to world on their own.
Rhetorical Analysis: 1) The writer of source A supported helicopter parenting. He viewed it as something that would benefit the children later in the future. Examples of words that he had used to portray his point of view were "capable", "well adjusted",more engaged", and "satisfaction."
2) Both of the pictures portray examples of helicopter parents. Source B shows a father helping is son with homework, which doesn't look bad and gives a positive outlook on helicopter parenting. Source D shows a mother who continues to hover over her daughter to make sure she stays focused on her schooling even though shes grown up and in college.
3) Source F supports C's argument because it provides evidence to the idea that children who have helicopter parents have a lack of maturity and readiness to "leave the nest" and that it's shown during the first year of college. The lower the scores are on the SATs the higher the percentage of parents are involved. Source F's information is reliable because it is from actual polls from The College Board and Science Group and they site their sources.
4) I believe the line should be drawn when the parents start to constantly call or text in order to see what they're doing , or they limit what they can do for fear of it not being "safe."
Taiylor Comp: sources A and B support my viewpoint the most because A talks about the fact that some parents are just simply more involved, not necessarily "helicopter parents" but source B shows a true helicopter parent since the parent is doing the child's work.
RA1- the writer of A didn't see helicopter parenting as the big problem people are making it out to be. The author simply explains the difference between being a helicopter parent and being simply involved.
RA2- source B is an actual picture where source D is a cartoon drawing; therefore source B is more likely to be taken seriously. Source B shows a parent doing the child's homework, where source D shows a parent reminding the child to study- which is less of a "helicopter parent" move than than source B. Both go to show that parents sometimes don't give their children the chance to grow up and take care of their own responsibilities.
RA3- the data in source F isn't organized the best way possible. Both F and C are about surveys about parental involvement, but I don't feel the information in completely reliable just because things like clubs and activities and jobs are all your personal choice no matter how much your parent tries to influence you as a child/ student.
RA4- helping children is simply being involved in their lives. This includes supporting them in all their choices and activities, and even guiding them in the right direction when making choices- but still giving them the ultimate decision. Doing their planning and homework them is intrusive and that doesn't help them at all, it actually hurts them in the long run.
Comprehension- The two sources that give the most compelling viewpoint of helicopter parenting that best portray my own thought are source A,C, and F because provides statistics to prove the affects of helicopter parenting and parenting involvement and both A and C provide both sides of the argument to helicopter parenting and it logically explains affects of helicopter parenting. RA 1. The writer of source A viewed helicopter parenting as parents that were simply more involved and the writer made the point that findings have shown that college age children whose parents were more involved had actualy grown into capable, well adjusted college students who were "more engaged in learning and reported greater satisfaction with their colleges." 2. Source B displays a more involved parent not as much of a helicopter parent and displays a child that is dependent upon the parent. Source D illustrates a more sheltered child and exhibits a helicopter parent who hovers her child they both display helicopter parents but source B shows a positive outlook source D shows a negative outlook on this type of parenting. 3. Source F shows how parent involvement affects the dependent child's SAT scores and source C makes the point that children of helicopter parents tend to experience an extended childhood in which their growth into independent adults is stunted in which the statistics from the SAT scores of source F support that claim. I do believe that the data from source F is reliable because if children are more dependent on their parents than the study habits they have will be a dependence on parents involvement and once they finally go to college and have to be independent they won't know how to react when things get hard which in turn will produce lower testing scores. 4. I would consider helping the children as in helping them do their homework if they're really struggling on it and helping them from kindergarten through high school years but once they leave for college that's when they're suppose to be independent so helping them at that point I would consider to be intrusive. I also feel as if the parent is becoming intrusive when they do the work for their child, because the child never learns the material and then ultimately struggles when it comes to any testing.
Caroline: Comprehension: source c gives the most compelling view point to the argue meant that I have. Which is that helicopter parents raise kids to be dependent on them denying there kids to be able to grow and learn from their own experiences. RA: 1) the writer of source A had the view point that being a helicopter parent is helpful to your kids and incourages them. "Helicopter parents have actually helped their children into capable, well adjusted college kids." 2) both in source B and D the children are looking at there parents as weird and confused, and the parents are helping there children whether the kids asked for help. The difference is that one is a cartoon, and the other is a picture. 3) it helps because it gives information in the form of a graph. I think it is relable because it gives you th SAT scores along with the parent involvement. 4) I would draw the line if the parent does it daily and if the child was being spoon feed.
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The two sources that portray my view successfully are Sources F and A. They used statistics to prove benefits of helicoptering parents.
The writer for Source A sees helicopter parenting as misunderstood. He uses words like 'actually' and tends to give an anti helicopter viewpoint throughout.
Source B features a real life scenario whilst source E features a hyperbolic cartoon. The first is a real life scenario, thus seeming possible. The cartoon gives exaggerations in order to empower the rediculousness of the concept.
Brandon Kuhl
The two sources that portray my view successfully are Sources F and A. They used statistics to prove benefits of helicoptering parents.
The writer for Source A sees helicopter parenting as misunderstood. He uses words like 'actually' and tends to give an anti helicopter viewpoint throughout.
Source B features a real life scenario whilst source E features a hyperbolic cartoon. The first is a real life scenario, thus seeming possible. The cartoon gives exaggerations in order to empower the rediculousness of the concept.
Source F shows that helicopter parenting reduces scores, thus supporting C. I think the information is reliable give the source but fails to mention within what perimeters it was forged.
I would draw the line where you aren't allowing them literal and figurative growth. Let them make mistakes and face consequences.
Kayla
Comprehension
Source D
When I think of helicopter parenting I think of parents hovering over issues that may not be very important.
Also I like how it shows the child as a teenager because that shows the typical age group of when the real stages of helicopter parenting comw into place.
RA#1
The after in Source A portrays helicopter parentng as a positive think. That they aren't necessarily being controlling but just getting involved in the child's life. The involvement makes for a child that is "more engaged in learning and reported greater satisfaction with their colleges"(Lee).
RA#2
In both Sources B and D they are both showing the parents "helping" the children. The children also both have the same annoyed look on their faces. The differences are, however, is that Source B makes it really seem like the parent is trying to help(minus the annoyed face) while Source D shows the parent as hovering and invading.
RA#3
In Source F, the chart shows that as the percentage of parent involvement increases, the SAT scores decrease. Therefore supporting Source C by saying that the more involved a parent is, the more dependent the child is. And in turn, weakens the success of the child when they become adults.
RA#4
I would say that what is considered helpful us just making sure they don't have any questions when doing homework and helping them with social situations. When it becomes intrusive is when they begin deciding things for the child. Not letting the child do anything for themselves.
C: Sources B and C are the best that portray my view points. These sources were most successful because the picture in source B shows how I would react if my parents tried to become involved in my school life.
RA1: The writer of source A said that helicopter parenting is actually beneficial to children in the long run. He uses words like, "capable", "well adjusted" and "engaged" to describe how the kids of helicopter parenting turn out in college.
RA2: In both visual B and D the children are giving their parents a look like, "Ugh just leave me alone." In B the parents is more trying to "help" with the kids homework. In D, the mother is hovering over her daughter even though she isn't really there with her to physically hover over her.
RA3: Source F supports source C's argument that helicopter parenting can lead to more mature and ready adults/college students. I don't think that source F is reliable because a student with or with out helicopter parents has an equal opportunity to be successful.
RA4: I would draw the line at school work. From kindergarten to high school, it is acceptable for a parent to actively involved, but once they are out of the house and on to college then the parents should let them be on their own. Kids are like butterflies, sometimes you have to let them fly on their own.
Sammie
Comprehension
Source A and source E portray that helicopter parenting isn't a bad thing. They prove specific quotes from credible sources saying that helicopter parents can actually provide positive outcomes.
Rhetorical analysis
1. The writer of source a is saying that helicopter parents can be good. The reader knows this because he has a quote that says that people with helicopter parents are "more engaged in learning and reported greater satisfaction with their colleges." At the end, he also says that people have made the point to think of helicopter parents in the extreme and describes it in a negative way.
2. Both sources have an example of a helicopter parent in them. They both are trying to help their children. In source b, the parent is doing the work for his son, while in source d, the mother is just trying to remind her child of what she needs to do which could be something every normal parent does. It's showing that helicopter parents don't have to be awful.
3. The information in source f supports source c by showing how children still reply on their parents once they get to college because they really only have average to below SAT scores when their parents have done everything for them. Source F is reliable because it provides actual statistics that relate to the articles.
4. Helping children would be actually helping them and not doing everything for them, but also letting their children do some things by themselves. Being intrusive would be doing everything for their child and not giving them any freedom to do things themselves.
Cierra Gronning
Comprehension:
Sources A & D give the most compelling viewpoint of helicopter parenting. They are most successful because they show that helicopter parents aren't all bad, that they do help their children reach their full potential.
Rhetorical Analysis:
1. The writer of souce A views helicopter parents are suprisingly helpful. She states that helicopter parents actually raise thier children to be more capable, and aren't the overly attached people society makes them out to be. Words that he used to describe his point of view are: benifits, engaged in learning, greater satisfaction.
2. The two sources are similiar because they both portray a parent helping their child in their endeavers. But the parent in source B is physically guiding their child by assisting them with their work, while the parent in source D is just reminding the child to study, not being involved completely.
3. The information in source F supports source C because it proves that being a helicopeter parent has its side effects. It shows that kids whose parents were less involved did better than the kids whose parents were overly involved. I don't think it is a reliable source because this is certain students, and they may be more or less biased.
4. I draw the line at helping your child do something, and doing it for them. A child has to learn to stand on their own two feet and do things for themselves. They will be highly unprepared for the real world and the challenges it brings.
1. Source D and Source C show the negative effects of helicopter parenting. They both imply how parents that are too involved with their children's lives make the child dependent and pushes the child away from their parent and home.
1. The author supports it using phrases like, "just might have its merits" and "its not a bad idea" talking about helicopter parents.
2. Source B shows the kid being very engaged with the parent, while the kid in Source D wants to get away from the parent. They both have a negative effect on helicopter parenting.
3. The data in source F show that parents who are involved with their kids social life had lower SAT scores. Source C explains that helicopter parents make their kids have a "lack of maturity" and aren't prepared emotionally for college, the graph supports this.
4. When a kid asks for help or the parent sees their child struggling, they can intervene, but if the parent intervenes when the child doesn't need or want help, thats when it becomes a problem.
Comp: Source B and Source C portray my own thoughts. These sources are the most successful because they portray how the parents won't leave the kids alone. They hover over them cause them to be dependent on the parent.
RA: 1. The writer of source A is somewhat indifferent about wether helicopter parenting is bad or not. "When you really get down to it, it just seems like common sense that you're not doing your kids any favors by holding their hand all the time, and yet the findings discussed in the Globe acutually paint a different picture." So using common sense it shows it isn't a good thing, but using facts it could be a good thing.
2. In source B and D, both parents are hovering over the kid to make sure they get done what they need. The difference is in B the father is actually doing the kids work for him and the D the mother is just consistently nagging the girl to make sure she remembers to do her work.
3. The information in Source F supports Source C because it proves that students that had less involvement from their parents had higher SAT scores. I do believe that it is a reliable source considering the college board is a well known source.
4. Helping children is basically explaining how to do something and letting them answer it for themselves, such as a math problem. It becomes intrusive when the parent begins to do the work for them or plans every detail of their day for them. A child needs guidance to do things, not someone to do things for them.
Dani
Marin
1 comprehension: Source F and Source A were the most convincing to me because even though the author of source A was a bit skeptical, they questioned their own bias in order to present information, and showed the process of their thoughts clearly enough to be understood by people on both sides. Source F showed relevant information that can lead to the conclusion that parent involvement in a child's life can influence their SAT score in a negative way.
1 rhetorical analysis: writer A was skeptical of the notion that helicopter parenting was a good thing, and used added words like "actually" and "just might" to show that he was questioning the evidence that he was showing, and he used the phrase "it seems like common sense" to describe his point of view about helicopter parenting as negative.
2 Source B is a photograph without words, whereas source D is a cartoon. They are similar because they depict a parent right behind their child, giving assistance, however the expression on the woman's face in the cartoon seems more worried than the man's face in the photo, which leads me to believe that society's view on helicopter parents is somewhat exaggerated.
3. Source F supports C because it shows that students with helicopter parents are performing more poorly on a test that would measure their academic abilities as well as their responsibility for preparing for this test, and the data shown in source F shows that even seemingly outside factors to education, like sports and clothing, can also influence someone's test scores if their parents intervene.
4. Because of these sources, I think that a parent should be involved in the child's plans for the future like education and career choice, but not to the point where the parent chooses their occupation. The parent should also be involved in the child's recreational time, but not to the extent where the parent chooses their childs friends, or dictates every one of their activities. I think children should have to learn most things about social norms on their own, but have a basis of proper conduct that comes from their parents values.
Comprehension
- Sources A and E. They were successful because it shows that helicopter parents often have kids that are more involved because the parents are active in the child's life and want the best for their children.
Rhetorical Analysis
1. The writer in source A viewed helicopter parenting as a good thing for the children. He said that," there is actually benefits to helicopter parenting" and he said the college age students whose parents fit the definition for helicopter parents have actually grown into capable, well adjusted college students.
2. The two sources are similar because in the two pictures the child doesn't seem to be paying attention to their parents. They are different because the son and father in source B are together and in source D the daughter is running away from her mom.
3.it shows that the less parents are involved the higher the SAT score. This supports source C because it makes it seem true that the growth of kids into adults is stunted before they go off to college. Source F is less persuasive to me because it was kind of hard to understand what the chart actually meant.
4. I would draw the line to the point where the parents are doing their homework for them and the kid doesn't have a say in anything that he/she does. It's okay if the parent helps with homework or reminds their kids to do something, but when it's to the point where the parents do everything for them then the kid won't know how to handle situations for themselves later in life.
C: For my thoughts on this issue, source b because it shows the father "helping" his son with his homework when he's actually doing it for him. And also source d because it shows the mother literally hovering over her daughter.
RA: 1. He thinks that maybe it's not such a bad idea, that it has "earned its wings".
2. Source b the parent and son are together, and the son doesn't really need help with his homework but his dad feels the need to help anyway, and in source d the daughter has already left the house and the mother is flying after her to make sure that she doesn't forget to study for her test. They are both giving you a visual of helicopter parenting, and letting you see that the children don't want to listen to the parents.
3. Source c is explaining the amount of parental involvement with children in college and how it can impact them mentally, and source f gives a visual example for it. I do believe that the data is reliable because it's from the college board, it's just difficult to understand.
4. I think you should help children only when they are asking for it, and if they aren't asking and you help them anyway it becomes intrusive.
C.The two most compelling view points are sources D and A. Source D is the simple definition of a helicopter parent. Society tends to except or relate to things they can understand, but also apply to life. The simplicity of the comic easily portrays it's meaning and the audience visualizes the meaning. Source A reflects my own views. It is good to have a parent that is plugged in to there child's life but only to a degree. It's important and a parents job to guide there child. In which case it is except able to be a helicopter parent, but in moderation. Kids still need space to learn on there own, that's part of being a child.
RA-1. Source viewed helicopter parenting as not a bad thing as long as it is done to a degree. In moderation, parents should help there children. It's a parents job to guide children on the right path, just not to the extreme. Words such as "degree", mildly" ,"involvement" and "commonsense" all support that helicopter parenting is okay to an extent.
RA-2. Sources B and D are both visual reference. Source b is effective because it is more life like. Although source d is relatable but also comical.
RA-3. Both sources apply the helicopter parents raise children who have stunted growth when becoming adults. Source F maybe unreliable depending on who was all interviewed.
RA-4. There should be a line drawn in over parenting. Parents should be plugged into there kids life but they shouldn't over parent. Sometimes the best way to learn is through your own mistakes.
-Cody
Comprehension: Sources C and F best portray my own thoughts the issue. These sources were most successful because they show that helicopter parenting isn't a good thing, and that it could cause problems with children being unprepared to face to world on their own.
Rhetorical Analysis:
1) The writer of source A supported helicopter parenting. He viewed it as something that would benefit the children later in the future. Examples of words that he had used to portray his point of view were "capable", "well adjusted",more engaged", and "satisfaction."
2) Both of the pictures portray examples of helicopter parents. Source B shows a father helping is son with homework, which doesn't look bad and gives a positive outlook on helicopter parenting. Source D shows a mother who continues to hover over her daughter to make sure she stays focused on her schooling even though shes grown up and in college.
3) Source F supports C's argument because it provides evidence to the idea that children who have helicopter parents have a lack of maturity and readiness to "leave the nest" and that it's shown during the first year of college. The lower the scores are on the SATs the higher the percentage of parents are involved. Source F's information is reliable because it is from actual polls from The College Board and Science Group and they site their sources.
4) I believe the line should be drawn when the parents start to constantly call or text in order to see what they're doing , or they limit what they can do for fear of it not being "safe."
Taiylor
Comp: sources A and B support my viewpoint the most because A talks about the fact that some parents are just simply more involved, not necessarily "helicopter parents" but source B shows a true helicopter parent since the parent is doing the child's work.
RA1- the writer of A didn't see helicopter parenting as the big problem people are making it out to be. The author simply explains the difference between being a helicopter parent and being simply involved.
RA2- source B is an actual picture where source D is a cartoon drawing; therefore source B is more likely to be taken seriously. Source B shows a parent doing the child's homework, where source D shows a parent reminding the child to study- which is less of a "helicopter parent" move than than source B. Both go to show that parents sometimes don't give their children the chance to grow up and take care of their own responsibilities.
RA3- the data in source F isn't organized the best way possible. Both F and C are about surveys about parental involvement, but I don't feel the information in completely reliable just because things like clubs and activities and jobs are all your personal choice no matter how much your parent tries to influence you as a child/ student.
RA4- helping children is simply being involved in their lives. This includes supporting them in all their choices and activities, and even guiding them in the right direction when making choices- but still giving them the ultimate decision. Doing their planning and homework them is intrusive and that doesn't help them at all, it actually hurts them in the long run.
Comprehension- The two sources that give the most compelling viewpoint of helicopter parenting that best portray my own thought are source A,C, and F because provides statistics to prove the affects of helicopter parenting and parenting involvement and both A and C provide both sides of the argument to helicopter parenting and it logically explains affects of helicopter parenting.
RA 1. The writer of source A viewed helicopter parenting as parents that were simply more involved and the writer made the point that findings have shown that college age children whose parents were more involved had actualy grown into capable, well adjusted college students who were "more engaged in learning and reported greater satisfaction with their colleges."
2. Source B displays a more involved parent not as much of a helicopter parent and displays a child that is dependent upon the parent. Source D illustrates a more sheltered child and exhibits a helicopter parent who hovers her child they both display helicopter parents but source B shows a positive outlook source D shows a negative outlook on this type of parenting.
3. Source F shows how parent involvement affects the dependent child's SAT scores and source C makes the point that children of helicopter parents tend to experience an extended childhood in which their growth into independent adults is stunted in which the statistics from the SAT scores of source F support that claim. I do believe that the data from source F is reliable because if children are more dependent on their parents than the study habits they have will be a dependence on parents involvement and once they finally go to college and have to be independent they won't know how to react when things get hard which in turn will produce lower testing scores.
4. I would consider helping the children as in helping them do their homework if they're really struggling on it and helping them from kindergarten through high school years but once they leave for college that's when they're suppose to be independent so helping them at that point I would consider to be intrusive. I also feel as if the parent is becoming intrusive when they do the work for their child, because the child never learns the material and then ultimately struggles when it comes to any testing.
Caroline:
Comprehension: source c gives the most compelling view point to the argue meant that I have. Which is that helicopter parents raise kids to be dependent on them denying there kids to be able to grow and learn from their own experiences.
RA:
1) the writer of source A had the view point that being a helicopter parent is helpful to your kids and incourages them. "Helicopter parents have actually helped their children into capable, well adjusted college kids."
2) both in source B and D the children are looking at there parents as weird and confused, and the parents are helping there children whether the kids asked for help. The difference is that one is a cartoon, and the other is a picture.
3) it helps because it gives information in the form of a graph. I think it is relable because it gives you th SAT scores along with the parent involvement.
4) I would draw the line if the parent does it daily and if the child was being spoon feed.
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